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[*] Posted on 9-26-2005 at 02:45 PM Reply With Quote
Lurkers and Spooks



This is to all the xmbg members that have crossed over to xmbs as a result of the recent upheaval caused by the inappropriate actions of several former staff members and regular members.

Posting is down over 50% now because of these recent events but yet it remains about the same number of visitors everyday. I see, or hear about, or alerted to all the trash talking that's still going on over there. I put an end to it several days ago and deleted the offending posts. All the troublemakers have been banned, ip banned, some now banned at the server level, and suspended. So I don't see what they're purpose is in coming here everyday, several times a day. The only obvious reason is to cause trouble but they can't because the suspended ones can't see any content whatsoever. I have seen remarks on xmbs like, "Goes to spy on xmbg now". And poor James is still whining about it and making smartass comments to Area51mafia about still having installer status here. I've seen other former staff come here scouring our hack requests for ideas and they magically turn up on xmbs a short while later. This was done before I suspended this former staff member. I hadn't done this yet because he didn't participate in the flamefests but lurking and scouring hack ideas warranted me to do so. Unlike being banned if I suspend a member's account they can't see any content whatsoever. I have also added extra measures so that guests can't see any content either. Because of the request system being tied in with paypal I can't use the feature in the admin panel to prevent guest viewing as it prevents the paypal bot from accessing the site to process payment confirmations for requests. So I had to come up with something to prevent this scavenging and to keep the content of this site private to the members that pay when we get the subscriptions in place.

And it's sad that I've seen members on here and notice them on a particular thread and when they leave the site I follow them and they go straight to xmbs where shortly there will be something about the thread I saw them on. And needless to say this is very disappointing to see these kinds of actions from people who I/xmbg have helped out, and some very extensively. So, if you're not going to help xmbg recover from this ordeal then I, and the people who have been paying for installations and donating, don't really want you here. If you want to help out then you're more than welcome to do so and it will be greatly appreciated. But if your intent is to be disruptive or just curiosity seekers and you have no intention in being a part of the community then we kindly invite you to leave and go play elsewhere.

Also, at that point when the subscriptions are in place I will probably dump the members table and start over as each member that wants to join will need to re-register. This will eliminate the above problems totally. They are most likely ones that wouldn't pay for the service anyway so I seriously doubt they will pay to spy or lurk to see what's going on. I will keep a copy of the members table and when people join I can migrate their old data to their new account.

And because of the fact that my database was literally stolen I urge every member to change their passwords. From the actions I've witnessed lately and the damage that was done to this site (stolen database, deleted db tables, deleted files and some other little surprises left behind) I wouldn't put it past the site owner to use this information maliciously. When the subscriptions are in place then this won't be an issue. Plus I have a privacy policy and am a certified member of Privacy Affiliates (see below footer). So I just want everyone to protect themselves and change their passwords.




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[*] Posted on 9-26-2005 at 04:43 PM Reply With Quote


See? Here's what I have to deal with. I just chased Adam from here under another name. He tried to get back on and I'll just keep banning every ip address he comes in under until he gets the message that he and his sort are not welcome here. To those of you from xmbs spread the word - you are not wanted here.



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[*] Posted on 10-5-2005 at 04:35 AM Reply With Quote
this explains a lot



Greetings from England, since moving to your hosting Jim I havent been on much but reading thro all this explains the rather odd email i got from I the site you are mentioning telling me you were closing down!!

Do you mean change my password on here or on my forum?

Keep up the great work, I sleep so much better at night now I dont have to worry if my forumis still alive!!




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[*] Posted on 10-5-2005 at 07:01 AM Reply With Quote


Yes you should change your password here and on your site and your hosting/ftp as well. He made off with my entire database so he's got everyone's info.



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done

dont want all your hard work destroyed, immaturity is a dreadful thing eh!




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[*] Posted on 10-5-2005 at 03:34 PM Reply With Quote


It's already been destroyed for the most part and he's reaping the benefits of all my hard work over the last year and a half. With all the trouble he and a few others that followed him caused here last month has pretty much crippled this site. Posting is way down, requests are almost at a standstill, a lot of people left to join his ripoff site even being fully aware of his actions and thievery. Most of the staff got pissed off and cried like babies (and some are still crying) because I demoted them when they joined his site, like I was going to welcome two-faced backstabbers with open arms. It was a mess, Jan, and you're lucky you missed it.



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[*] Posted on 10-6-2005 at 04:17 AM Reply With Quote


well i just like to read the topic activity here in case theres a new hack out or something new i could learn by mistakes and stuff. you're still my number one installer, i just dont have any new hacks i need installet yet. when does subscriptions take place? I'll still be faithful even after subscriptions take place. pinkie swear, unless its more than 50 bucks! haha



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hear hear



Absolutely, its important to show support, Im a total novice and dont understand much (anything) about forum software but this site in particular Wormhole has been so very good to me. I woulnt know a hack if I saw one!!

I had a sneak at the other site it doesnt have the same presence as here and seemed very empty and quiet , if people have any sense they will quietly come back here when the dust settles.

Jim has earned my trust and respect and that takes time...:thumbsup:




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[*] Posted on 10-6-2005 at 04:33 AM Reply With Quote


Right now I don't know when subscriptions will be in place. With virtually no staff anymore it's hard to get things done around here that need to be done. And if I can't get help around here the future looks bleak for xmbg. My last resort will be to stop any developement and just be an installation service. So right at this point I don't know what's going to happen. It's just so frustrating to know what needs to be done but can't get there without help.



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Absolutely, its important to show support, Im a total novice and dont understand much (anything) about forum software but this site in particular Wormhole has been so very good to me. I woulnt know a hack if I saw one!!

I had a sneak at the other site it doesnt have the same presence as here and seemed very empty and quiet , if people have any sense they will quietly come back here when the dust settles.

Jim has earned my trust and respect and that takes time...:thumbsup:
Jan, you speak the truth. But so many people have gone over there knowing they kicked me in the head by doing so and I know who's who and they know in doing so they're most likely to know they are not welcome back here and they are probably ones who wouldn't pay for this service anyway. I'm doing all I can do to keep this site going but I can only do so much. And as I said in the last post, without staff and help it's looking bleak.



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[*] Posted on 10-6-2005 at 04:55 AM Reply With Quote


Is there no authority for reporting such things on the internet, I know you can report sites to search engines for their content.

This year 2 tour operators have ripped photos from our other site bigcatfish.net. I managed to shame them both into removing my holiday photos advertising their services (which I had never used) but I think it was cos they are English and when roused I can be something of a Rottweiler!! As I use Frontpage there doesnt seem to be a copyright protection function, but I have seen other sites with it.

Obviously when its an insider job things are very different though.

I think you need another boat trip... had a look at your Gallery photos.. do you fish as well or just like messing about on the water?

As we say over here chin up, Im sure someobe like you will get the supprt and help you deserve from a better class of person

Oops just burnt my breakfast!!

:cheer: lets all show some support




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No there's not much I can do at this point mainly because he's in the same town as you and it would cost an arm and a leg to pursue it. Now if he had continue screwing with things and did actual damage to the servers then my host would contact the necessary authorities (FBI) and they would go after him. Or if I had deep enough pockets I could have pursued it.

I used to fish a lot when I was younger. I bet it's been 25 years since I last fished. And now with living on a lake I probably should take it back up again.




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[*] Posted on 10-9-2005 at 08:31 AM Reply With Quote


Well I have nothing bad to say about XMBS. I'm a proud member of XMBS



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[*] Posted on 10-9-2005 at 12:23 PM Reply With Quote


And I suppose if someone robbed the bank where your money is kept you'd give them the keys to your house, too?



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[*] Posted on 10-10-2005 at 01:57 PM Reply With Quote


This is a great site.
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[*] Posted on 10-24-2005 at 10:37 PM Reply With Quote


wow I really did miss a whole lot when I lost my internet. Just a question is it only going to be for paypal members once you start the subscription thing? As I don't have an account but I would like to help out. Its a major bummer about what happened and I'm sorry you had to go through that, if I could help in anyway I will as if it wasn't for xmbg my site would be blah!




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[*] Posted on 10-24-2005 at 10:55 PM Reply With Quote


Yeah it was a bummer and quite messy and ended up hurting this site quite a bit. But we're making a come back slowly. But, yes, paypal is the only option at the moment. I can accept cc payments through my merchant account for my hosting biz and will see about getting that implemented after I get the subscriptions in place to begin with. However, paypal is free to join. And I can accept money orders but will have to make arrangements privately.

Feel lucky you missed all the ugliness that happened last month. What you read here is a very watered down recap of what really happened.

Glad to see you back! :wave:




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