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[*] Posted on 6-7-2006 at 11:39 PM
WormHole's Final Announcement



With great sadness and heaviness of heart I regretfully have to announce that XMBG will be closing for good on or about June 23rd. Some of you may remember last September when all the fighting broke out here and the site was in turmoil where I was battling people throughout several different threads. Through all this and the high running of emotions coupled with the stress of being overworked running this site at a rate that was increasing with each passing month that I let it be known that through all this my personal life was also in jeopardy and that my wife and I were facing the possibility of losing our home. So I proceeded with my original plan for XMBG to be a paid site and I made it so. Well the time has now come that losing our house has become a sure reality and that now I'm faced with us splitting up and me being homeless. So with no home for me XMBG cannot continue. I have been striving for several years to get something going online to earn money by providing services to people who need them. But the general consensus of the xmb community is that all of us who provide these services should do this for free regardless of the personal stakes involved. And, in my humble opinion, this is not right. All of us people who provide these services and write these hacks for you to use, I feel, should be paid for doing so. I heard it all last year when I turned XMBG into a pay site that installing hacks is nothing and takes no time to do. In a small way this is true. Some of the hacks don't take long to install while some can take up to a half an hour. And I have seem many people mess up even the simplest of hacks. So if I, or others like me, can do something that you can't do, then why shouldn't we be compensated? If you drive a car and can't perform the simplest of maintenance on it then you take it to a garage and pay someone to do it for you. Am I not corrected on this? Then why should perfoming online services for something you can't or don't want to do be any different? As I said, I heard that it doesn't take that much time to install hacks. But when I was doing it for 18+ hours a day like I was a year ago then I was working a full time job with overtime and doing it for free. And that is just insane. I never worked that hard when I worked in the brick and mortar world.

My original plan for XMBG was to be a paid site and have people who wanted to work and get paid for it. But in the beginning I had to test the waters first to see if this would be feasible to do. And I did it for a year and a half before I started charging for hack installations and I felt that making some money doing this for people could be a possibility. So last September I started charging for hack installations. That month showed promise by bringing in just a little over $600 coupled with donations. But the illusion was shattered the next month and each month thereafter as I watched the monthly income drop by anywhere from 50 to 75 percent until it bottomed out this past March when I closed XMBG for a short while. In terms of reality people do not want to pay for my services and I got the feeling that I am expected to do all this for free. Last November I obtained a dedicated server which allowed me to get out from under a reseller contract and lowered my monthly hosting fees. I had a plan to offer quality but inexpensive hosting services to people in hopes that it would start generating some income for me and hopefully stave off the prospect of losing my home. Before I started taking on xmb users as hosting customers my original customer base was bringing in just enough to cover my server fees with a small profit. But when I started taking on xmb users it has become almost every month since November that the majority of them are slow in paying or don't pay at all forcing me to have to cover them. The idea of being in business is to make money, not lose it. Like the hack installations I'm not charging an arm and leg. Installation requests were anywhere from $3 to $10 depending on the hacks requested and my hosting fees are $5 a month for ample space with everything you could want or need for personal hosting. With the amount of space I have on one drive on the server and I could sell it at $5 a pop for 500 megs of space I could almost be making what I needed to be making a month to avoid this financial distress that we are now going through.

I had a former staff member who had promised to help me get the hosting business going and promote it but for whatever reasons he has abandoned the project and left me hanging. And just prior to that all the problems with my father came about and I've been devoting my energy to my parents and their needs. And since I don't handle the household finances I wasn't fully aware of how bad things have really gotten. I would see signs that maybe things weren't quite this bad. My wife makes almost $60,000 a year at her job but she's had 3 major surgeries in the past 5 years. And even though she has medical insurance there were still hefty medical bills put upon us. And this past February she changed jobs from a company she worked at for many years to a job in the same field at about the same pay but it, too, has turned out to be a financial disaster with her insurance costs ending up costing more, her medications now costing more and the promise of more overtime work now not being available. And there's the rising cost of gas and utilities in general that eat more and more of the income. And with me being just a couple months shy of turning 50 and not working in the real world now for several years it is going to be extremely difficult for me to go out and find a job where I won't be working just to drive to work. The majority of all this is my fault because I was determined to get a home-based business established and it has failed at the turn of every corner and has cost me the loss of my home where I had hoped to live out the rest of my life and it has cost me the love of my life who was my high school sweetheart. Many of you know that I was a professional musician for about 30 years. I retired from that 3 years ago because I'm getting older and it's a younger person's world. Plus I got very burned out from the bar and club scene putting up with drunk people all the time and incorrigible musicians that just made playing more stressful than it really should be. But at the time I quit I walked away from a gig that was paying me about $2000 a month and had that for about 7 years and would most likely still be doing the same gig today. I quit because the pressure of playing 4 nights a week was getting to be too much with all the variables to deal with and to concentrate on getting a business going. I wanted to do something that I enjoyed doing while affording me the opportunity to get out of the rat race. So along with my struggling hosting business I started XMBG. I started 5 years ago by provide support at xmb and xmbhacks and after doing that for about 3 years I decided I could do this and more from the comfort of my own site. I enjoy working with the software. I enjoy installing hacks and really believed that there could be some money made while doing it. Afterall there are other board software programs that have people doing installations and creating themes and getting paid good money to do it. So I thought I could do the same with the xmb software. Boy was I ever wrong in that assessment.

But now after 2+ years of XMBG it has come down to the fact that it's not going to happen. It's not going to be what I envisioned. While XMBG was a paid service I got into the Google Adsense and while people thought they were helping by clicking on ads it ended up costing me the loss of over $350 in revenue for the first month because Google determined that it was all fraudulent click throughs. So the next month I had Guldan sign up for a Google account and the same thing happened with me losing another $100 or so in revenue. So I looked around for alternatives and joined Yahoo!'s advertising program. Well in 6 months it's only generated $41.83. At this rate it's going to take a year to get to the necessary $100 mark to get a pay out. If people didn't want to pay for my services and would merely click 1 or 2 ads each day or whenever they visit the site that would generate a bit of substantial revenue. But with Google I had people actually tell me they were hammering the ads. The intention was good but it cost me to lose the money and my account(s) with Google. I have a Donations button for those who would like to help out but anymore I'm lucky if 1 or 2 donations come in a month. Just take a look at the XMBG Benefactor List. Up until about a month ago before I pruned the members list I had over 2000 members and only 65 have donated. That's less than 3%. Realistically speaking that's not enough to inspire me in keeping things going but yet I have done so.

So not only because of my current situation of losing my place to live, and without housing there can be no more XMBG, there's just nothing else to keep me inspired to continue on. And there's no one else that knows all the inner workings and the procedures of the behind the scenes and day to day operations of XMBG. The work and time involved to run this site along with the money it does cost it is not feasible to continue even if my living situation was different. I have worked this site for free for far too long and I can't continue it any longer. I have to now put my energy towards my life and whatever I can come up with to survive. I will probably start shutting things down a few days prior to June 23rd as I prepare to leave my home and go off into the unknown. It's a scary thought to not have any control over your life and not knowing what is going to happen.

So with this final thought I leave you all with a word of advice. Always take care of yourself first and foremost and be sure that you have all your bases covered. You never know what life is going to throw at you and it's best if you are prepared. Do not rely on anyone when the chips are down as only you are the only one that can truly take care of yourself. If you are in a relationship with someone be sure that if the bottom falls out that you have yourself covered. And if you are the one that is reliant on someone for support don't get complacent and thinking it will always be there for you. It can be taken away from you at anytime. So try to be self-reliant so that you aren't left high and dry and have to give up or lose everything you own and everything you know and love.




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[*] Posted on 6-9-2006 at 12:35 PM


I'm sorry that you are making the decision to close XMB Garage, especially when you are such a great help to everyone. But, I respect your decision to do so, because it's more important to take care of things in real life, rather then help people fix problems on a forum.

I appreciate all the help that you have given me :)

I loved the last bit of your advice too.

Good luck with everything that happens!
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[*] Posted on 6-9-2006 at 01:43 PM


I am so sad to read this because I really love this site and I really love your help. I am sorry :smash: If you need whatever, just write me a message ;)
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[*] Posted on 6-9-2006 at 04:24 PM


Thanks to the both of you! But it's time to start generating $$$ and this site has shown it's not going to happen here. Tonight I'm going to a club to see a friend of mine play and am meeting a mutual friend there that may have a job opportunity for me doing something on the computer. And I've given thought about dusting off the ol' bass and going around to jam sessions on the weekends and start networking and maybe find a gig for Friday and Saturday nights. My wife and I started 'negotiating' last night and I'm hoping that maybe I can convince her not to give up on us. We have way too much invested in our life together going back to 1974 when most of xmb'ers were babies or not even thought of yet. So we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks.



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[*] Posted on 6-9-2006 at 09:48 PM


Just wondering, how much bandwidth does XMBG use per month? & how much space does it take up?

Have fun at the club and hopefully that friend will have a job waiting for you to check out :D
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[*] Posted on 6-10-2006 at 03:56 AM


Well currently for this month so far XMBG has used 1.16 GB bandwidth and currently is using 954 MB of space. But I am on a dedicated server so I have my limits for it set to whatever I want.

Yeah I had a good time. Say a few friends I haven't seen since I quit playing. Even ran into my drummer from my old band. And as I suspected would happen I have the itch to play again. So I'll be pulling out the old Fender Jazz and knocking of the rust and in a few weeks will start going out and networking again. Before I left tonight we sat and had a long talk over dinner and we're going to give it a try and try to reconnect with one another. Of course it's contigent upon my finding gainful employment whether it's a real job or playing or both. And the big thing is if we can refinance the house and save it. As of 8/1 the mortgage goes to an adjustable rate which means the house payment will probably jump up 400 - 500 dollars a month and with it being adjustable means it will fluctuate and not knowing what the exact payment will be each month. So to stop that we have to be able to refinance to get a set rate. If we can't refinance then we will be done for sure. So it's going to be a tough rode to travel for a while.

But on an up note I spoke with my friend and was directed as to what to do to apply at the company she works at - Roche Pharmaceuticals. So I will be looking in to that first of next week. Also, a long time friend and fellow bass player who plays in the band at the club I was at has offered to let me work 1 day, maybe 2 days, a week with him helping him in his landscaping business. So for 1 day it could be $120 to $144 depending on how many hours. I worked with him before when he got popped years ago for DUI and I had to drive him around and I was making $100 to $120 a day. But for now 1 or 2 days with him will be a help and still afford me the time to seek full time employment. And if I can find a playing job fairly quick that will be another couple of hundred playing Friday and Saturday nights. So maybe there's hope for us to pull this out and get reconnected with one another. And when I do find full time work I can concentrate on promoting and building up my hosting biz and do xmbg stuff when I'm bored.

So we'll just have to see how things play out of the next several weeks. But at least she's giving me the chance to make things right and get myself back on track. That, in itself, has lifted a great load from me and given me the incentive to see what I can do.




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[*] Posted on 6-10-2006 at 04:10 PM


wish you all the best wormhole, you have done alot for us all, really eppreciated



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[*] Posted on 6-10-2006 at 05:55 PM


It's going to be a tough road to travel but after 2 days now of talking things out I believe we will make. There's been a bit of damage done over 8 years so there will be a lot of healing to be done - both personally, interpersonally and financially. So with that said and as I work to put my own life back together and make some drastic changes and get back to work XMBG will still be here but it will take a back seat and I will handle it when the time allows. So as I will soon have to put forth effort and time to more important things the xmb community will also have to adjust to my rescheduling, so to speak, as I'm sure my level of committment around here will also change. There will be gaps in response times and when requests will be done. It's just that XMBG will no longer be high on the priority list. It would be a different story, of course, if it was a moneymaker but it didn't work out that way.



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[*] Posted on 6-10-2006 at 07:33 PM


Jim, I wish you well in your marriage and hope that first and formost works out.

XMBG will be missed... but you must do what you must do.

Good luck with everything and I hope you get to keep that beautiful home on the lake.
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[*] Posted on 6-10-2006 at 07:51 PM


Thanks Shawna! But as I said in my last post I'll still be able to maintain XMBG. It's just that I am not going to, or will be able to, invest the amount of time into it as I have for the past 2 years and hoping it would make something of itself. Now if we can't refinance then, yes, everything will go down the drain.



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[*] Posted on 6-11-2006 at 03:49 AM


Jim, I hope everything works out for you. If you need to, I can do some tech-support and installations when you are not here.



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[*] Posted on 6-11-2006 at 04:04 AM


Thanks Mike! We're just going to take it one step at a time. At least I was able to convince Julie not to give up on us. But if you can help as much as possible in the forums that would be a big help. As for installs there's still not that much happening, or at least it's not like it used to be when you were an installer. But if it does pick up and gets to a point where when my time here will be cut back and I have a half dozen or so requests piled up in the evenings then I could very well need to bring you back on as an installer.



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I am so sorry this had to happen WormHole.

Not just with XMBG but with your offline life as well.

Please know that you have been a mentor, teacher, and devoted friend.

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Thanks Mitchell! The biggest hurdle is to save the house. With that done everything else is a cakewalk. And, as I have said, xmbg will still stay on line if that is accomplished but it will be a secondary thing with my time and involvement eventually becoming limited to evenings and weekends only depending on the job I can find and the hours involved with it. So xmbg will then be more dependent upon the community to keep things going around here.



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Wormhole, with that said could you please u2u me when you get a chance. I'd really appreciate it.



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im sorry to hear about everything wormhole. i hope everything goes well for you and just wanted to let you know that everything you have done has really helped me. i really appreciate it!
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[*] Posted on 6-11-2006 at 08:31 PM


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Wormhole, with that said could you please u2u me when you get a chance. I'd really appreciate it.
U2U sent.

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Basically we just have to help each other right? Anyone, including me, will be glad to help out just to keep this site going.



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Wormhole I just want to say I'm sorry to here to hear to hear about your situation. I really wish you the best in your journey. Keep your head up & everything will work out. You have helped me out a lot & all of your hard work has paved the way for XMB users to use the hacks to better improve their boards.

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Thanks, David! Right now I'm just going one step at a time. Right now I'm in the process of getting my driver's license reinstated. Then it's job hunting after that. Gotta bring in money now and xmbg isn't going to do that. So I've started marketing and promoting my webhosting business. And since the wife is going to give us another chance I've got to start bringing in more money. So I've been putting the feelers out to try to find a music gig as well as trying to sell off what equipment I don't need since I'm not running a band anymore. But the big hurdle is to save the house. We'll know more on that when we meet with the mortgage company later next week.



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[*] Posted on 6-14-2006 at 12:23 PM


Allright Jim I hope you get that refi on your house.

I really wish I could help you out with donating money.

I'm a situation where every paycheck I only like 100 bucks or so till next payday.

I really love this site. I know you really work hard on those hacks for us members.

I know it has made my forum now since my server crash be one of the best.

I love the fact that the service you provide doesn't go un-noticed.

Your staff has been there for me since day one. Your response to those in need is very prompt.

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I'm very sorry to hear about your situation Jim, you've been so a great help to me and everyone here and I for one don't like to see you so disheartened. :(

If you need anything at all, even people to install hacks and whatnot, I can do some. I've come a long way with hacks and have been the hack installer on three different boards right now so if you need anyone, I'm here.

Best of luck to you and your family, I hope everything works out for the best. *hugs*




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Thank you Kelly, I appreciate your kind thoughts. The big hurdle is to get the house refinanced to avoid the adjustable rates which could raise our monthly payment by as much as $500 a month. And then you don't know what it's going to be from month to month. Everything else - bringing in income, rebuilding trust/confidence in me again, finding work, etc. is all on me. And I have been making small bits of progress but still have a ways to go. But saving the house is first and foremost. Everything else, depending on me and what I can accomplish, will work itself out, I'm sure.

As for taking on installers, well I'm just not there yet. There's not enough work that I can't handle myself. Besides, I don't want to face the potential situation that after I get back to work and get home in the evening and there's work sitting that should have been done. It would be a different story perhaps if the site was as busy as it was a year ago. But xmb, I believe, is generally falling off as it is slow across all xmb sites. Although I can say that xmbg is still the busiest one of all. But if it gets to how it used to be where there were 20 to 30 requests a day then I'd probably bring in some extra help. But for now with it being 10 or in most cases less than 10 a day I think I can handle it alone. But thanks for the offer.




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[*] Posted on 6-14-2006 at 11:16 PM


Jim,

I hope everything goes well. It seems like you're going through a really rough time and I think the last thing you need to worry about is xmbg. Take care of yourself and your family Jim =) Come back when you feel like your life is all worked out and when you feel is right.

Thank you for all your help that you've given me. I really appreciate everything you've done for me and other xmb'ers.

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Thanks Roxanne! We're just going after one thing at a time. I shouldn't have quit playing music when I did while I was making decent money doing it. But I got burnt out. I took a position with another band and that didn't work out either. Besides that was a little extreme going from playing 4 nights a week to 1 night a month. And I was foolish to think I should be paid for provide these services here. Even tho a handful of people did pay and didn't mind doing so it wasn't enough as it eventually fell off to practically nothing. And a lot of comments I heard during that time from people when I first went paid was that we (myself and others like me that do all this for xmb) were expected to do this for free no matter the personal expense to us. And, IMHO, that's just not right. I pay for a lot of internet services and products. People work hard to do this and should be compensated accordingly unless they choose otherwise. So they won out and now hardly anything new comes out, updating stopped except for what John Briggs did until he became limited on internet access due to similar problems like I'm going through and then I picked up on the updating. And overall response time now across all support sites is way down and slow. Oh well, what's done is done and I've got my work cut out for me.



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